Interview with Kim Krenek

Date:February 17, 1997

SUPPLEMENT! CONTINUATION FL0520300 / Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158
Offense Death Investigation 
Date of Report 02/17/97                 Location 644 Pierce Street 
Orig Incident Date 12/06/95             Victim Lisa McPherson 
W Prosecute Yes X No                    Investigator Det. Jorge Carrasquilo 
Previous Status Active Subject Impound Inventory 

NARRATIVE: Agent Feola and I will be interviewing Kimberly Krenick at her residence, which is located at X, X, Texas. What I need you to do, Kim, at this point in time for documentation purposes, would you please identify yourself by stating your full name, your date of birth and your ah, social security number? And if you wouldn't mind, please spell your name for me. And speak loudly so my secretary can take all this down without being too upset at me.

Ms. Krenek: Okay. My name is Kimberly, K I M B E R L Y, Krenek, K-R-E-N E-K. My date of birth is X, and my social security number is X.
Det. Carrasquillo: Okay, and is that correct on your address, would you repeat your address for me please?
Ms. Krenek: X, X, Texas X.
Det. Carrasquillo: And your home phone number?
Ms. Krenek: Is Area CodeX.
Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. Kim, we're going to go ahead and commence this interview at ah, 7:00 p.m. Standard X time. What I want to do is, I want you to go back and recap, we've talking about your experiences with Lisa. Just tell a little bit, you know, she's your cousin, correct?

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Ms. Krenek: Yes.
Det. Carrasquillo: And just tell me the last contacts you had with Lisa.
Ms. Krenek: Well, it had been several years, probably ten years, since I'd seen Lisa and I saw her at my mother's New Year's Eve Party, (94. And at my mother's home, and we ah, we were able to visit there and she looked beautiful and healthy and vivacious. Happy., And one year later we see her... dead.
Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. Tell me a little about that New Year's Eve party. Was there anything that you discussed or anything else that you remember about that night.
Ms. Krenek: I ah, we visited a little about Scientology and exactly what is their belief, ah, which she tried to use a description using a cat, and some free thinking, and I couldn't understand it, so we basically skipped that.
Det. Carrasquillo: Did you converse about it and she couldn't tell you about her job?
Ms. Krenek: No. Not that I recall.
Det. Carrasquillo: It was basically family discussion and...
Ms. Krenek: Yes.
Det. Carrasquillo: Catching up like.
Ms. Krenek: Catching up.
Det. Carrasquillo: And then after that contact, alter that New Year's Eve night, 94/'95. Did you have any other contact with Lisa?
Ms. Krenek: No, I did not.
Det. Carrasquillo: What was your ah, information about Lisa?
Ms. Krenek: I got a phone call from my mother and, in December of 95, that Lisa was dead. And had died from meningitis in Florida. And I felt a instinct to contact someone who knew Lisa and had been

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with her so that I could find out who had held Lisa's hand when she passed away.
Det. Carrasquillo: Did you do any, take any action?
Ms. Krenek: Yes. I got a phone number which I believe was her apartment and I called there and I spoke with a girl named Brenda.
Det. Carrasquillo: Did Brenda give you a last name?
Ms. Krenek: Ah... she probably did, but I didn'twrite it down.
Det. Carrasquillo: What was the context of that conversation?
Ms. Krenek: I wanted to know what Lisa died from and who was with her. And I was told that Lisa died from a radical bacterial infection, that she was with acquaintances, she felt like she had the flu, she complained of a sore throat. They said it spreads quickly within six to eight, possibly twelve hours. She was sick at noon. They took her to the emergency room alter dinner. She died on the way to the hospital. The doctor worked on her at least one hour and they told me the body has to be I.D.'d and diagnosis made before the release of the body.
Det. Carrasquillo: Now this was one day after Lisa's death. Brenda, from Florida, gives you all this information.
Ms. Krenek: Correct.
Agent Feola: Okay, urn, Kim, you're reading notes.
Ms. Krenek: Yes.
Agent Feola: Are those the actual notes from the day of the conversation?
Ms. Krenek: Yes. Yes. This is all I have left is the notes that I took from my conversations aboUt Lisa. When I contacted them.
Agent Feola: Okay. Let me ask you a question.

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Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. What happens next, what's your next contact? Or your next experience with, with this incident.
Ms. Krenek: , Was at the ah, funeral home. At the Restland Funeral Home for Lisa's viewing. It was in the evening.
Det. Carrasquillo: This is Dallas, TexasJ correct?
Ms. Krenek: In Dallas. And ah... we, there I ah, was approached by the girl named Brenda with the blonde hair and ah, she said, oh, you're, you're Kim, the one I talked to, Lisa's cousin. I said yes. She introduced me to Benetta, Lisa's boss, and there were two other Scientologist's with Clearwater, Florida there. And ah,... at one point, I went to the ladies room and while I was washing my hands, ah, Brenda came into the rest room, ah, had her back to the door, the only door that you could come in or out. So it was basically blocked. It wasn't in a threatening way, but it was, body language. And she told me, "Kim, the autopsy report is going to show something different than we thought Lisa died from". Nothing more was said. You know...
Det. Carrasquillo: Did you ask her to elaborate on that?
Ms. Krenek: No, I did not.
Det. Carrasquillo: And it just came out of the blue.
Ms. Krenek: It just came out of the blue. That's why it stuck in my head, because I didn't ask her any questions, it just made an impression on me, to why would somebody say something weird and off the wall like that, and especially now. You know, and all the grieving.
Det. Carrasquillo: Can you, can you do me a favor, well before I forget, would you please describe Brenda? Height, weight, age, color hair.

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Ms. Krenek: Uh huh. She's a shorter... well, she's probably about my height, maybe an inch or two shorter. And...
Det. Carrasquillo: How tall are you?
Ms. Krenek: I'm 5'5". Depending on if she had, I don't think she had heels on. Blonde hair, it's a little past her shoulders. She has blue eyes. And just a medium build. She's not ah... beautiful, like Lisa or ah, you know. I didn't find her to be that way.
Agent Feola: How was her hair, was it all one length, or...
Ms. Krenek: Yeah, it's kind of rolled, and you know, looked nice.
Det. Carrasquillo: Full bodied. About how old was she?
Ms. Krenek: My age, maybe younger. I don't know. I'm not very good with ages.
Det. Carrasquillo: Somewhere between 32 and 37?
Ms. Krenek: 35. Yes.
Det. Carrasquillo: Anything else occurred at the viewing that you found peculiar or.
Ms. Krenek: Oh, yes, the way that the Scientology people would not allow us to have any words, family time. They were either hovering around us, or they were hovering over Lisa's body if you happened to walk that way. And we didn't feel like we were having any private conversations. When we did try to include them in our conversations, for instance asking them did they believe in, in the alter life, you know, what, what did they believe in? And we would get vague responses. Everything was vague. We had no, I mean Lisa was with acquaintances. They gave us no concrete information at all.

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Det. Carrasquillo: Did you ask anybody else at the viewing how anything about Lisa's demise or about her situation?
Ms. Krenek: I just remember Benetta. She, it was ah... yeah, this is terrible and ah, things like that. But they never shed one tear. They never seemed emotional at all.
Det. Carrasquillo: And they never went into details about.
Ms. Krenek: Nothing. Nothing.
Agent Feola: Nor in any detail. Who took her to the hospital.
Ms. Krenek: No. Nothing.
Agent Feola: Who had spent the day with her. That where she was that day.
Ms. Krenek: Nothing. I was under the impression that they were at Lisa's apartment when she got sick.
Agent Feola: Because of the fact they said at lunch they refer to eating times, which would make you think that they [INAUDIBLEJ.
Ms. Krenek: Yes. At lunch she had a sore throat. She was sick at noon. Had a sore throat. So... and she was fine up until then. It was, so fact acting, this is what I was told on the phone. That she was only sick for like six to twelve hours.
Agent Feola: And so she....
Ms. Krenek: And that was it. You know she was healthy up to that point.
Agent Feola: She was in an ambulance or...
Ms. Krenek: No, she was ah, in a van. They did tell us that she was in a van. But, I mean, to this day I don't know who held Lisa's hand when she died.
Det. Carrasquillo: Did you have, or have you had any contact with anybody from Lisa's work or any Scientologists since that time?
Ms. Krenek: No, I have not.

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Det. Carrasquillo: Nobody has called you or attempted to call you?
Ms. Krenek: No.
Agent Feola: Is there anyone else that you think that we should talk to about this. In Austin or Dallas. That you think has information.
Ms. Krenek: Well, I don't know if you all have heard this story or not, my brother works in Dallas, and a friend of his came over and they were visiting Lisa's job. To make a long story short, this man's daughter is in Scientology and was Lisa's roommate. And claimed she's the one that called 911. We said 911 was never called.
Det. Carrasquillo: Your brother.
Ms. Krenek: My brother.,
Det. Carrasquillo: Whose name is.
Ms. Krenek: Jack Slaughter.
Det. Carrasquillo: Works where in Dallas?
Ms. Krenek: He has a building in Las Colinas. So that's in between Dallas and Irving.
Det. Carrasquillo: And he has a...
Ms. Krenek: Friend that he's known for like twelve years. And they were, Jack says, I've got a leave, they were visiting at work, he says I've got to leave to go tape "Inside Edition" for my family, they're doing a story on my cousin. Who was in Scientology. And this guy goes, you're kidding. Who was your cousin? He goes, Lisa McPherson. You're kidding! That's my daughter's roommate!
Det. Carrasquillo: Do you know the guy's name?
Ms. Krenek: No, I don't. And I'm afraid that they're going to be, they're scared for their daughter, but I think there's anything more into protecting her than...

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Det. Carrasquillo: Is he Hispanic, is he white.
Ms. Krenek: I think the mother is from the Phillipines, she's something, you know. I mean, she's not from Mexican or something like that, I've never met them. But Jack talked to...
Det. Carrasquillo: Is the father Anglo or Hispanic?
Ms. Krenek: He's her stepfather, I think. I mean, I, I've never met him. But Jack says she is beautiful.
Det. Carrasquillo: Do you have a phone number for Jack, that way we can call him up and talk to him on the phone? Can you give me that phone number?
Ms. Krenek: Uhhuh. It'sah, X
Det. Carrasquillo: And is Slaughter the common spelling?
Ms. Krenek: SLAUGHTER.
Agent Feola: What was the name of that town again.
Ms. Krenek: Oh, X? X. But he lives in Y. spellingGRAPEVINE.
Det. Carrasquillo: Is this his home number or work number.
Ms. Krenek: That's his home number.
Det. Carrasquillo: What's his work number?
Ms. Krenek: I don't have his new work number. I can get that from my mother.
Det. Carrasquillo: That's no problem.
Ms. Krenek: Probably be very angry with me.
Det. Carrasquillo: But we think we know who, who the girl is we're just trying to verify it.
Ms. Krenek: Why would she tell her parents she called 911, though? We know 911 wasn't called.

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Det. Carrasquillo: Sometimes when people make statements it gets transposed. And it may not be exactly what was said and then eventually put more into it than is actually there. But we extrapolate things you know, than are actually there.
Ms. Krenek: I know. Like Mom. Ah, well, just like Aunt Dell says, "well, I can't, I don't think you got anything to tell them". You know, and then the more you think about it, the more you do have something to say, so. I can't really.
Det. Carrasquillo: I'm going to give you a business card, if anything comes up... I want you to call us and let us know, okay. Since you've spoken to us in person, so now we can talk to you on the phone, at least you know who we are.
Ms. Krenek: Right.
Det. Carrasquillo: You feel more at ease. I'm going to go ahead and conclude this interview at 7:15 Standard Austin time.

Ofc. Reporting Det. Jorge Carrasquillo/pr ID No. 630 Case Status Active Date Cleared _____________ Clearance Type Exception Type 1. Arrest 1. Extradition declined 3. Death of Offender 2. Adult Juvenile 2. AR of primary offense, 4. V/W refused to cooperate 3. Unfounded secondary offense, 5. Prosecution declined w/o prosecution 6. Juv/No Custody Ofc. Reviewing Date SAO Info